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Nerdzmasterz

Also for fun... where might one learn to use C++ in Godot? All I ever find is how to use GDScript or C#.

DaveTheCoder

Do you mean in addition to the official documentation? https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/tutorials/scripting/gdnative/index.html#

Nerdzmasterz

Something very basic- like "Hello, World!" basic.

C++ makes C# seem like GDScript.

DaveTheCoder

The C example in that documentation is a hello-world. The C++ example is a plug-in that animates a Sprite. The C++ code itself isn't very complicated, but it takes a lot of effort to hook it into Godot.

Nerdzmasterz

Maybe I'll check it out then.

And don't get me wrong with C++ it's not that it's much different by way of other programs. It actually is incredibly powerful, and has quite a history. From what I've researched, it is an archaic language which was derived from C and something else. At the time, it was a breakthrough by way of technology. As Python did, C++ sprouted, but unlike Python, it became what is under the hood in supposedly many, if not all, game engines.

Why not use it now, then?

Also from research, the human reason for it is that print("Hello, World!") makes more sense than cout << "Hello, World!" << endl;.

PS: print("Hello, World!") is actually Python.

DaveTheCoder

archaic language

:tongue:

My first language was Fortran 66. That's archaic.

Nerdzmasterz

It's still pretty old! Like I said, though, it's still incredible. I mean, if anyone disagrees with that, check out some of the games made with Unreal Engine.

cybereality

You can use C++ and other languages in Godot, but I would not recommend it. Even the C# support is not the best. You are better off using GDScript.

If you have a really complex game, like procedural mesh generation or real AI and stuff like that, then you'd need C++ for the performance. But very few projects actually need this.

Nerdzmasterz

I know. It's more just for fun- like figuring out what I can do with it. I heard you can even go in and customize Godot itself. Would I do it to the one I use? No, but I am very curious.

And, if I learn C++, maybe I can later build something with Unreal. Who knows?

cybereality

C++ is good to know. I'd recommend learning it cause it helps you understand how computers work and almost all languages are derivative from C. I learned C++ for about 20 years, and I don't think it is as relevant was it was before, but a lot of stuff still needs it. Like interfacing with hardware or low level stuff where performance matters. But right tool for the job.

Megalomaniak

@some_lame_kid said:

@DaveTheCoder said: Get an inexpensive external display that you can plug in when needed?

I already have one, the issue is I like the laptop working on my lap.

How about finding a donor replacement on ebay or such and switching the panel out?

cybereality

I might have an extra laptop in the closet. When I get back home from the trip I can check and see what I have left. I know I don't have any more gaming laptops but I might have something that's not too old.

duane

@DaveTheCoder said:

archaic language

:tongue:

My first language was Fortran 66. That's archaic.

Here, hold my beer.

(Don't ask me to quote any, I've forgotten nearly all of it.)

Kojack

@Nerdzmasterz said: I know. It's more just for fun- like figuring out what I can do with it. I heard you can even go in and customize Godot itself. Would I do it to the one I use? No, but I am very curious.

And, if I learn C++, maybe I can later build something with Unreal. Who knows?

Yep, Godot is written in C++, you could change it.

For learning C++ while making games, I'd strongly recommend SFML. It's 2D only, but it's far easier to get things going as a C++ beginner than Godot or Unreal. (I might be biased though, I've taught C++ game dev professionally for 19 years, and around half of that included SFML)

Nerdzmasterz

The problem with Unreal:

Me: I don't understand Blueprints, I want to learn C++, as real programming makes more sense to me.

Forum: Start with Blueprints.

Me: ...

cybereality

Using C++ with Unreal is a pain in the butt. It's supported better than Godot, but it's still a mess. C++ was not designed to be used as a scripting language.

Bimbam

When I first had a proper crack at programming (I'd been shell scripting in one way or another for years prior, bit always hacky script kiddy stuff) I spent 3 weeks trying to get a pi to talk to an arduino properly.

I eventually stopped and tried todo the same in Python and had prototype finished in a weekend.

That was 6 odd years ago, and I can safely say I have never 'needed' C++ in anything I do. Worst case scenario I've used Cython and dabbled in C#. To me it's just a level of specialisation that's too deep to maintain without losing out on the myriad of other skills I try to keep up with. I'm sure plenty would argue it's worth it, but not for my use case ^{^.}

Nerdzmasterz

The real benefit of C++, if anyone would dare attempt it, is speed.

duane

I started learning C on my first commodore 64, in the mid 80s, but the only serious work I ever did with it was a kernel driver for an oddball piece of hardware and converting a lua mapgen to C++ for the minetest game.

The funny thing is, lua is nearly as fast as C -- until you have to talk to any other software. When you start having to convert a lot of data from lua to anything written for C-like data structures, your efficiency plummets.

Nerdzmasterz

@duane said:

@DaveTheCoder said:

archaic language

:tongue:

My first language was Fortran 66. That's archaic.

Here, hold my beer.

(Don't ask me to quote any, I've forgotten nearly all of it.)

I think I still beat you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_language

Don't ask, I only dabbled.

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