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MagicLord

@TwistedTwigleg said: -| Navmesh generation and usage. Unity has (in my opinion) a much better navigation system then Godot currently. For Godot, you may need to write your own implementation for some of the things Unity includes built in.

Navmesh will be improved perhaps fully re done after 3.1 The basic navigation should work as good as Unity or Armory 3D.

-| IK scripting. This will be much easier in Godot 3.1, but it really depends on how similar the API for IK will be between engines.

IK will be possible in 3.1

-| Translating code from the component system Unity uses to the class/node based system Godot uses. This one could be really, really hard, or really easy depending on a multitude of factors. For one, it depends on how many components are used, and how interconnected they are. Because Godot objects can only have one script, you either will have to make one massive script with all of the functionality of each component script, or you will have to use multiple children nodes and have them communicate with each other.

About translation, this isn't copying, it's not possible , Unity and Godot doesn't work exactly the same way. Instead, this is understanding how those tutorials works in Unity, what are the main principles and apply those in Godot. The code can be modified or simplified, Sharp Accent has it's own way to code and code the gameplay, but you could do another way and get almost the same result.

Thanks for sharing! I definitely think Sharp Accent’s channel needs more subscribes and views, as his tutorials are great! :)

I have nothing to do with Sharp Accent’s channel, i don't post it's videos to make views, and Godot forum is really not the best placed to get lot of view on videos :D Those are for @aztecsense as he asked for those type of tutorials (there is lot of other tutorials, but Sharp Accent covers some things i didn't find on other tutorials).

TwistedTwigleg

@MagicLord said:

Navmesh will be improved perhaps fully re done after 3.1

That would be great if they improved or redid the Navmesh system in Godot. Utilizing something like Detour (like the plugin slapin is working on) would, in my opinion, make it much easier to make more complicated things like AI.

I really hope it gets some more attention post Godot 3.1.

About translation, this isn't copying, it's not possible , Unity and Godot doesn't work exactly the same way. Instead, this is understanding how those tutorials works in Unity, what are the main principles and apply those in Godot. The code can be modified or simplified, Sharp Accent has it's own way to code and code the gameplay, but you could do another way and get almost the same result.

Very true. If you learn and make your own version of the tutorial using Sharp Accent's principles as a base, then I totally agree that there is nothing wrong with it at all.

As you said, the code could be changed in such a way where it's your own code, and thinking about it, I suppose you could get very similar code even if you had not ever seen/read the tutorials before. Sometimes you and someone else can have almost exactly the same code because you and the other person just had similar ideas on how to code the project.

I have nothing to do with Sharp Accent’s channel, i don't post it's videos to make views, and Godot forum is really not the best placed to get lot of view on videos :D Those are for @aztecsense as he asked for those type of tutorials (there is lot of other tutorials, but Sharp Accent covers some things i didn't find on other tutorials).

I know. I was not trying to imply that you had something to do with his channel, or was trying to make views. I was just stating that I think he could use more of them :) I'm just surprised that most of his videos only have a few hundred views, while his tutorials are really good and as you said, he covers things you rarely (if ever) find on other tutorials.

I was just trying to state what difficulties I could see in translating the tutorials from Unity to Godot, more as a heads up to anyone trying more than anything. I totally think Sharp Accent's tutorials are great, and I'd love to see someone make them work with Godot :)

My apologizes if I implied that you were trying to make views, or anything like that. That was not my intention, and I'm sorry if my earlier post implied otherwise.

MagicLord

@TwistedTwigleg said:

That would be great if they improved or redid the Navmesh system in Godot. Utilizing something like Detour (like the plugin slapin is working on) would, in my opinion, make it much easier to make more complicated things like AI.

I really hope it gets some more attention post Godot 3.1.

I already posted an issue on GitHub with an example showing how primitive and bad is navigation in Godot, while it works great including physics in Armory 3D.

Very true. If you learn and make your own version of the tutorial using Sharp Accent's principles as a base, then I totally agree that there is nothing wrong with it at all.

As you said, the code could be changed in such a way where it's your own code, and thinking about it, I suppose you could get very similar code even if you had not ever seen/read the tutorials before. Sometimes you and someone else can have almost exactly the same code because you and the other person just had similar ideas on how to code the project.

Some things will be easy while others can be harder until you use Godot C# instead of GDscript that is more limited.

There is many other tutorials from other 3D engines that could also translate to Godot.

TwistedTwigleg

@MagicLord said: I already posted an issue on GitHub with an example showing how primitive and bad is navigation in Godot, while it works great including physics in Armory 3D.

Great! Hopefully the developers will see it and consider making/using a new navigation system in Godot.

Some things will be easy while others can be harder until you use Godot C# instead of GDscript that is more limited.

I forgot that Godot has C# support now! Last I heard it had some problems (I heard there was some problems with using 3D and C#) but I bet those are fixed now. I really ought to give Godot's C# implementation a try in the near future.

There is many other tutorials from other 3D engines that could also translate to Godot.

Very true. Often times when I have a problem and searching for Godot specific solutions yield no results, I often take a look to see how other game engines handle the problem and then convert/translate the solution to Godot.

MagicLord

@TwistedTwigleg said: Great! Hopefully the developers will see it and consider making/using a new navigation system in Godot.

Yes, they seen it and responded, you can find it here https://github.com/godotengine/godot/issues/17885

I forgot that Godot has C# support now! Last I heard it had some problems (I heard there was some problems with using 3D and C#) but I bet those are fixed now. I really ought to give Godot's C# implementation a try in the near future.

Last time i tried it was not able to detect and run with VS2017, many Api functions are not implemented, there is lot of work before it is condidered fully implemented and stable. But this could become the main language, faster with classes support , more able for complex games.

Very true. Often times when I have a problem and searching for Godot specific solutions yield no results, I often take a look to see how other game engines handle the problem and then convert/translate the solution to Godot.

This is why Unity is number one for indies, there is many thousand of tutorials everywhere covering everything from code to editor, to make any kind of game.

TwistedTwigleg

Hey guys!

I just posted a new update post explaining what I've been up to in September, along with announcing when things are coming out (and some minor changes to tutorial series in the future).

Here is a brief summery of the update post, though I would highly suggest taking a look at the post if you want more details:

-| The tower defense tutorial I started working on last time I posted an update here is finished and will be released on September 26th for patrons. -| A new Gimp tutorial showing how to make bump maps (sometimes called height maps) will be released in WIP form on September 26th, and then fully released on the 28th. This tutorial will be free! -| Future tutorials will be shorted and more focused, with longer tutorial series being more infrequent. This allows me to keep a nice and consistent stream of tutorials coming out!

If anyone has any suggestions or feedback, please let me know! My TODO list can never be too long :lol:

TwistedTwigleg

Hey everyone!

I just posted another update post on RandomMomentania, this time explaining what has happened in October and what is on the way.

A sneak peek of a upcoming tutorial series coming in November. I'm really excited to start writing the tutorial for this project, as I think it's going to be awesome!

You can go check it out here if you want :smile:

Here is a brief summery of everything in the update:

-| There is a real time chat tutorial in Godot out right now for patrons. -| I’m working on a new Godot plugin that will allow for easier modding support in Godot games. You can find the plugin on GitHub right now, though it needs more work before it is fully usable. -| I made a game for ProcJam 2018 to learn Unity 2018, which you can download and play if you want. -| A new Godot tutorial series, a 3D vertical space arcade shooter, is on the way and will be coming out starting in November! -| I will be taking a short break starting on November 5th. -| No free tutorials out in October, though there is a free tutorial planned for November. -| A bunch of questions (if you guys have time and/or want to answer. No pressure either way!)

While not much tutorial-wise has came out on RandomMomentania in October, I've been working really hard on making future tutorials and projects. November and December should be exciting and the plan is to make a bunch more tutorials (assuming nothing major comes up) :smile:

As always, if you have any suggestions or feedback please let me know! (Also, if you are doing anything tonight, October 31st, please stay safe!)

TwistedTwigleg

Hey guys.

Due to an unfortunate turn of events, RandomMomentania will no longer be using Patreon moving forward.

You can find all of the details here on this update post.

If you are using Patreon or know anyone that uses Patreon, please give the article a read so what happened to me does not happen to others. No one should have their work stolen through an exploit.

Here is a brief breakdown of the post:

-| RandomMomentania will no longer be using Patreon. -| Patreon-only tutorials are locked and will be removed soon. -| The change is due to Patreon having a major exploit, and my website potentially having fallen victim to this exploit. -| Hardly anyone makes enough money on Patreon, and combined with the possibility of my hard work easily being stolen through an exploit, I needed to make a change. -| RandomMomentania is going to change a bit in the coming days as I remove Patreon-related content. -| I am looking into other ways of supporting RandomMomentania. This includes finding a way to provide paid tutorials while also supporting my ability to make them. -| I still have big things planned, including cool tutorials, but I'll have to do it differently in the future.

But please go give it a read if you have the time. While what happened to me is not great, the reason I made the post was so hopefully no one else will be caught unaware of the exploit.

I'll keep you guys informed when I figure out what I'm doing in the future. Hopefully it will not take too long, but I want to make sure I do it right and find a solution that works for everyone :smile:

Megalomaniak

That is a shame, hopefully you can find or have found a better solution.

TwistedTwigleg

@Megalomaniak said: That is a shame, hopefully you can find or have found a better solution.

Thanks! I have some ideas I need to look into, and once everything settles a bit I plan on taking a careful look at some potential solutions. I plan on doing more extensive research beforehand so I can hopefully find a solution that works for everyone involved.

Hopefully sometime soon I will have some good news to share!

aztecsensei

hello again! too bad what happened with your project! :/ ive heard that armory engine had problems with patreon too. it hurt me to say this (i dont like 2d) but i still believe that 2d tutorials are the way to go to attract godot patreons,ya know the step by step, cool gameplay,classic mechanic from popular videogames ,tricks and of course the very ,very basics of gdscript. i noticed that a lot of godot users are noobs and dont care much for 3d stuff right know. like the 3d scares them or sth. spend some time watching what the kids are doing, look how gdquest and Lesko are doing it, pick a popular series such as megaman,sonic,castlevania or the most recent indie game and watch how your followers grow baby. 3d stuff is great but theres a lot of people that they dont know what they doing. you already have the TALENT man,now you have to become POPULAR. well thats what i would do if id wish to become succesful on a project like this. Best of Luck.

btw, youtube is a essential tool to succed.dont foget it. :D

TwistedTwigleg

@aztecsensei said: hello again! too bad what happened with your project! :/ ive heard that armory engine had problems with patreon too. it hurt me to say this (i dont like 2d) but i still believe that 2d tutorials are the way to go to attract godot patreons,ya know the step by step, cool gameplay,classic mechanic from popular videogames ,tricks and of course the very ,very basics of gdscript. i noticed that a lot of godot users are noobs and dont care much for 3d stuff right know. like the 3d scares them or sth. spend some time watching what the kids are doing, look how gdquest and Lesko are doing it, pick a popular series such as megaman,sonic,castlevania or the most recent indie game and watch how your followers grow baby. 3d stuff is great but theres a lot of people that they dont know what they doing. you already have the TALENT man,now you have to become POPULAR. well thats what i would do if id wish to become succesful on a project like this. Best of Luck.

btw, youtube is a essential tool to succed.dont foget it. :D

Thanks @aztecsensei!

As far as Patreon goes, I think it's just a mixed bag that unfortunately leaves creators on Patreon baring the brunt of the damage. It is a shame, as Patreon really spends a lot of time advertising themselves and pulling talented people in, but they do not really mention the problems their platform has that ultimately can devastate a creator's ability to work there. But I digress!

I would agree that 2D seems to get more attention overall. Godot's 2D side is extremely mature, easy to use, and fairly approachable for beginners and advance users alike. There are tons of things to learn with 2D and thanks to the more accessible and less daunting nature of 2D (for example, no need to learn how to use something like Blender), I think it pulls a lot of people wanting to make games. I'm really happy that people like GDQuest are doing well with 2D and Godot.

However, for me, I have several things standing against me doing 2D tutorials primarily.

One big issue is that my 2D art skills are really sub-par at best, and terrible at worse. One of the only reasons I know so much about 3D games is simply because I found I didn't really have the artistic skill to work on 2D ones :lol: (Granted, with practice that could change. I just need to find the time for it )

Another issue I have with making 2D tutorials is that there are already a ton of them. To stand out in such a huge crowd, I need something unique that I can provide. Right now, I do not think I have anything special that I can contribute on the 2D side of things. I do not want to feel like I'm wasting others time by making another 2D platformer tutorial, especially since I have nothing new to bring that others have not already covered.

The last issue I have with making 2D tutorials primarily is simply that I like making 3D games! I have nothing against 2D games, but anymore I find I like the complexities that 3D brings. To me it feels more rewarding to find solutions in 3D than it does in 2D.

(Not that I have anything against 2D tutorials, or anyone that makes them! I just do not feel it is right for me to shift my primary focus towards 2D tutorials, at least not right now)

All of that said, thank you so much for your advice! I really appreciate it and I do not plan on stopping trying to push myself and make great tutorials.

Hopefully I can get another tutorial out this year, as I have a cool Voxel terrain tutorial project finished, I just need to find the time to write the tutorial :smile:

I have some cool plans for RandomMomentania in the new year and I'm excited to share it soon! I think it will help push me forward, and allow me to make tutorials and other projects :smile:

Thanks again, I really appreciate it! :smile:

aztecsensei

yea ,i kinda knew u love 3d and yes pixels is a totally diferent beast to get into. btw, do you have some gameproject besides the tuts? geez,u can make any game u want!

TwistedTwigleg

@aztecsensei said: yea ,i kinda knew u love 3d and yes pixels is a totally diferent beast to get into.

3D is just my preferred dimension, as I just never could get the 2D asset creation process down. If I was a better 2D artist, perhaps thing would be different, but I'd have to practice a lot. I do really appreciate the advice though!

I have some exciting stuff planned for RandomMomentania in 2019. It is going to be a noticeable change, but I think it's going to work out nicely and hopefully I'll be able to share more about it soon!

If all goes well, I'll have be able to announce the change(s) sometime this week :sunglasses:

btw, do you have some gameproject besides the tuts? geez,u can make any game u want!

I have some game projects in the works! Unfortunately not much Godot related outside of tutorials, but maybe that will change in the future!

I have a mobile focused game I am working on actively that I cannot share any more details on just yet. I'm aiming for that project to be in a playable state by March, but we'll see how things go. I hope to be able to share more about it by the end of February, I just need to get it farther along first.

As far as games I'm working on that I can share, in some of my spare time I have been working with Unity and remaking a fan game I made a couple years ago. It's been nice to work on something a little less serious, and it's also given me a chance to relearn a few things.

As for making any game, I'm still learning and most of the time I'm just stumbling along like everyone else. I appreciate the compliment though!

Side note: How are your projects coming along? Anything new with the JRPG project?

TwistedTwigleg

Hey guys!

It's been awhile since I have posted about a new tutorial here. I have been hard at work fixing and changing things now that I'm no longer using Patreon, which has slowed tutorial production down quite a bit.

But I'm happy to say that almost everything is settled now, and I have a new tutorial to share. If anyone is looking to create voxel terrain, like in Minecraft, with Godot, I just released part 1 of my voxel terrain tutorial series on RandomMomentania!

You can find the tutorial here. Let me know what you guys think! Part 2 should be out in a week or so. :sunglasses:

I also have news to share regarding RandomMomentania's new direction in 2019! I just need to find the time to make a update post :lol: More details on that coming soon.

I'm excited to keep creating tutorials in 2019 and I have cool new things planned for the future. I hope you guys enjoy the tutorial! :smile:

TwistedTwigleg

Hey guys!

I just wanted to quickly let you guys know that part 2 of the Voxel terrain tutorial is out now! You can find the tutorial here. This part shows how to interact with the Voxel terrain system built in part 1, move around the scene while it is running, and make some rigidbody spheres to collide with the terrain.

Also, I have made a update post explaining the new direction RandomMomentania is taking in 2019. You can read it here if you want. The basics is that I’m focusing on making games primarily as a way to support RandomMomentania, with tutorials still coming out, just probably not quite as often.

I’m working hard on making the best games I can. Hopefully I’ll be able to share more about the games I have been working on soon!

Hope you guys have a great weekend! :smile:

Also, on a complete and total aside, I learned a interesting Wordpress thing today. Tags you add to your WordPress posts help search engines like Google categorize and tag your posts. I thought tags on a Wordpress site only applied to the Wordpress site, but nope!

By adding a bunch of tags to my tutorials, both past and present, they now come up when searching in Google, while before they didn’t appear at all.

So, if you have a Wordpress site, add tags if you want search engines like Google to return your website in search results!

aztecsensei

@TwistedTwigleg said:

@aztecsensei said: yea ,i kinda knew u love 3d and yes pixels is a totally diferent beast to get into.

3D is just my preferred dimension, as I just never could get the 2D asset creation process down. If I was a better 2D artist, perhaps thing would be different, but I'd have to practice a lot. I do really appreciate the advice though!

I have some exciting stuff planned for RandomMomentania in 2019. It is going to be a noticeable change, but I think it's going to work out nicely and hopefully I'll be able to share more about it soon!

If all goes well, I'll have be able to announce the change(s) sometime this week :sunglasses:

btw, do you have some gameproject besides the tuts? geez,u can make any game u want!

I have some game projects in the works! Unfortunately not much Godot related outside of tutorials, but maybe that will change in the future!

I have a mobile focused game I am working on actively that I cannot share any more details on just yet. I'm aiming for that project to be in a playable state by March, but we'll see how things go. I hope to be able to share more about it by the end of February, I just need to get it farther along first.

As far as games I'm working on that I can share, in some of my spare time I have been working with Unity and remaking a fan game I made a couple years ago. It's been nice to work on something a little less serious, and it's also given me a chance to relearn a few things.

As for making any game, I'm still learning and most of the time I'm just stumbling along like everyone else. I appreciate the compliment though!

oh i see you love to teach game dev! thats cool!. i heard unity is pretty good with 3d games, hopefully godot would as good as unity in the 3d department some day.

Side note: How are your projects coming along? Anything new with the JRPG project?

unfortunately life got busy, i have to pause it for the time being. i hope to continue later.i will try to keep practicing with blender so i dont get rusty. thank you for asking about it. :)

TwistedTwigleg

@aztecsensei said: oh i see you love to teach game dev! thats cool!. i heard unity is pretty good with 3d games, hopefully godot would as good as unity in the 3d department some day.

Thanks!

As for Unity and Godot, Godot is catching up rapidly. For the most part, I'd say one of the biggest things holding Godot's 3D side back, at least for me personally, is just performance. Godot is plenty fast enough for most desktops, but on mobile it is just a tad too slow, though I have not tested the new OpenGL 2 renderer yet on mobile, so maybe it is not as much of an issue now.

unfortunately life got busy, i have to pause it for the time being. i hope to continue later.i will try to keep practicing with blender so i dont get rusty. thank you for asking about it. :)

Ah, I totally get that. That is a good idea to keep practicing, I've not practiced during breaks and have always found in it harder to pick it back up afterwards.

Hopefully things will work out :smile:

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