Godot dropped all projects- will not import projects: edit its a windows issue

jbskaggs

Edit:

I hate windows- I have always hated windows.
Windows 10 updated this morning and moved my entire documents folder to onedrive then set it to readonly.
I hate windows.
Yes I know how to fix it- the point is I shouldnt have to. Windows should not have rewritten my preferences for locations of files, it should not be doing a damn thing I dont want it to do.

So currently until I fix it godot cannot read my files.

Microsoft wonders why people hate them. Chrome wonders why people hate them. And they keep doing this absolutely garbage tactics. IF I opt out of OneDrive or I opt out of Chrome do not reinstall the damn things I opted out of for my "user satisfaction." And especially dont move my files off my drive.

I hate windows.

Last night Godot 3.4 was working fine.

Windows 10 updated.

I just now try and run Godot and all my projects are missing. So I try and import my projects and it gives error no godot version is provided- convert will....

so I clicked convert and it goes back to blank project menu. I tried this a couple times.

I also noticed Godot could not se files on my local drive only in onedrive. Which I never load from. If I navigate to my actual documents folder Godot says the folder is empty. But the folder shows fine in OS.

All my other software seems to be fine. I will check and see but I this is strange to me.

This is very weird. Any thoughts?

jbskaggs

I think I am just going to switch this desktop back to linux and just use windows for gaming or something non critical when stability and security isnt required. If a company can move your files without your permission your system is not secure. I wish I did not get so mad about this stuff. But it is a big hassle to not be able to use your system because of a feature they think you want even after you tell them no.

cybereality

Oh man, I'm sorry. Yeah, for me I learned to stop complaining. If I don't like something, I remove it from my life and never think about it again. I struggled with dual booting Ubuntu and Windows for a few years, and just realized I enjoyed my life better with Linux.

Sometimes you have to configure stuff, Linux isn't perfect, but for the most part it does not do anything you don't tell it. So I switched and haven't looked back. Honestly, I don't miss it at all, all my games run, sometimes even better than Windows, and the software is free, the community is helpful, it's just much better.

I gave up trying to get people to switch, people don't want to believe that there is a better option. But it's better. I means, sometimes there are certain games that don't work, but I would say a good 90 - 95% of games are completely fine and work with no problems. And Linux is missing big software from Adobe and Autodesk, but I don't want to support those monopoly companies. Blender is better than all them and it's free.

jbskaggs

@cybereality said: Oh man, I'm sorry. Yeah, for me I learned to stop complaining. If I don't like something, I remove it from my life and never think about it again. I struggled with dual booting Ubuntu and Linux for a few years, and just realized I enjoyed my life better with Linux.

Sometimes you have to configure stuff, Linux isn't perfect, but for the most part it does not do anything you don't tell it. So I switched and haven't looked back. Honestly, I don't miss it at all, all my games run, sometimes even better than Windows, and the software is free, the community is helpful, it's just much better.

I gave up trying to get people to switch, people don't want to believe that there is a better option. But it's better. I means, sometimes there are certain games that don't work, but I would say a good 90 - 95% of games are completely fine and work with no problems. And Linux is missing big software from Adobe and Autodesk, but I don't want to support those monopoly companies. Blender is better than all them and it's free.

Yeah sometimes I cant get a certain game to play or software to work and thats it. But stuff like today, Its just so frustrating- I have to pay for the windows experience. And everytime something like this happens I swear Ill never go back- but then I need to run something in windows and get lazy and dont boot back into linux.

I probably have four or five flavors of linux laying beside by desktop rightnow on USB sticks I used to recover an old all in one.

Ill be looking at the current linux flavors see if anything new has popped out in past 6 months.

cybereality

Honestly Ubuntu 21.10 is the best. I've tried a bunch, and there is a reason Ubuntu has been consistently popular. It just works with less hassle.

jbskaggs

@cybereality said: Honestly Ubuntu 21.10 is the best. I've tried a bunch, and there is a reason Ubuntu has been consistently popular. It just works with less hassle.

Ubuntu is nice. I just like messing with the different flavors. Been using linux since 2000 red hat days. its almost like gaming for me. :)

Im glad you support Linux. There can be some configuration stress sure- but at least they aint making you pay for the privilege.

Tomcat

I~~'m a vegan~~ using Win 7 and I'm fine! B)

Win 10 is a big misunderstanding, a swamp.

When I first bought my computer, I tried to install Linux on it. Unfortunately Linux has very bad drivers for the latest systems. But Win 7, now also doesn't support the new components and programs. Even Blender has to be hacked to run on it.

With the new computer I have to choose: Win 11 or try again to give Linux a chance.

cybereality

I run Windows 11 on my other machine, but I only really use it for testing (cause obviously I have to make sure my demos work on Windows). It's a pain in the butt honestly, it's a brand new high end PC, and sometimes clicking the start menu has like a 3 or 4 second delay. And this is top end on an SSD, etc. Even searching the menu can be slow and blank for seconds or give incorrect results. My laptop is faster. Also, Bluetooth audio stopped working. There was some Windows update, and now my speakers don't work, it's been that way for weeks. Honestly, it sucks.

jbskaggs

@Tomcat said: I~~'m a vegan~~ using Win 7 and I'm fine! B)

Win 10 is a big misunderstanding, a swamp.

When I first bought my computer, I tried to install Linux on it. Unfortunately Linux has very bad drivers for the latest systems. But Win 7, now also doesn't support the new components and programs. Even Blender has to be hacked to run on it.

With the new computer I have to choose: Win 11 or try again to give Linux a chance.

I understand. There are flavors of linux that come preloaded with latest drivers etc- but it can still be hard. Flavors PopOs, Garuda, Sparky, seem to have the out of box gaming drivers built in for AMD and Nvidia. Someone installed a Bios update I noticed just now this past year. Now its locked into only reading the win10 uefi harddisk. I did not know that was possible. So Im going to have tinker a while to figure out how to get my bios to let me choose something beyond this one drive. This used to be setup to just read USB sticks and boot- but nope they are no longer even listed as an option in the bios. So that is life.

jbskaggs

@cybereality said: I run Windows 11 on my other machine, but I only really use it for testing (cause obviously I have to make sure my demos work on Windows). It's a pain in the butt honestly, it's a brand new high end PC, and sometimes clicking the start menu has like a 3 or 4 second delay. And this is top end on an SSD, etc. Even searching the menu can be slow and blank for seconds or give incorrect results. My laptop is faster. Also, Bluetooth audio stopped working. There was some Windows update, and now my speakers don't work, it's been that way for weeks. Honestly, it sucks.

And there it is in a nutshell. I think they program the stuff to do that on purpose.

cybereality

Yeah, Apple was caught doing this. They did an update on iOS that broke features on the old version (that people with older iPhones were stuck on), reduced battery life, and other instability. Of course because they just released a new iPhone that was better and faster and all of a sudden the old one coincidentally stopped working. There was a class action lawsuit and Apple lost, but they have so much money I doubt they care.

Tomcat

@jbskaggs said:
There are flavors of linux that come preloaded with latest drivers etc- but it can still be hard. Flavors PopOs, Garuda, Sparky, seem to have the out of box gaming drivers built in for AMD and Nvidia.

We are talking about the drivers for the motherboard. I need to choose a system that supports it.

@cybereality said:
Honestly, it sucks.

Life is a pain. Win, who doesn't know capital letters and small letters, Lin, who doesn't know spaces...

cybereality

The Buddha once said "Life is suffering, particularly if you run Windows."

Tomcat

@cybereality said:
The Buddha once said "Life is suffering, particularly if you run Windows."

Well, as I understand it, to say that living under Linux is a pleasure is also impossible.

The reason it was happening is that Linux does not like/work with spaces in the file path at all while Windows does not care so sometimes a Widows user names something with those damn spaces completely oblivious of the rest of the world

jbskaggs

@Tomcat said:

@jbskaggs said: There are flavors of linux that come preloaded with latest drivers etc- but it can still be hard. Flavors PopOs, Garuda, Sparky, seem to have the out of box gaming drivers built in for AMD and Nvidia. We are talking about the drivers for the motherboard. I need to choose a system that supports it.

@cybereality said: Honestly, it sucks. Life is a pain. Win, who doesn't know capital letters and small letters, Lin, who doesn't know spaces...

I gotcha.

I was spoiled coming from an age 1982 where the computers just worked, except for everything that didnt.

Of course the operating system was a literal BASIC interpreter and it did stuff in a way that gave you hope it would do stuff. And it would act sorry and happy and loved you, like puppy with diahrea, Because it always made a mess but you knew one day you would have it grow up and finally do stuff. And people knew you were smart cuz you had a 'puter!

Unlike today where we expect it to do stuff and it secretly watches till you rely on it doing stuff then it doesnt do stuff it breaks your stuff, just so it can drink your tears, because it is a wolf of camouflaged sorrows. It can do this the stuff it just wont.

cybereality

@Tomcat said:

@cybereality said: The Buddha once said "Life is suffering, particularly if you run Windows." Well, as I understand it, to say that living under Linux is a pleasure is also impossible. The reason it was happening is that Linux does not like/work with spaces in the file path at all while Windows does not care so sometimes a Widows user names something with those damn spaces completely oblivious of the rest of the world =)

Yeah, I had that problem on Ella. The model for the room I purchased had texture names with spaces in it. Which initially imported fine when I embedded them, but I needed to change the texture settings, so when I reexported it broke all the materials. There were about 150 textures, I wanted to script it, but unfortunately the textures were not named uniformly, so it was not easy. I'm sure I could have figured it out with RegEx, but I spent like 45 minutes writing a script that didn't work and realized it would be easier to just spend another 30 minutes and manually rename all the textures, so that is what I did.

Tomcat

I suppose to solve the problem this way: buy a not very old motherboard that supports everything — Win 7, 11 (I skip 10) and Linux. And see how it all works now.

@cybereality said:
Yeah, I had that problem on Ella. The model for the room I purchased had texture names with spaces in it.

By the way, was the creator of this room from Russia?

cybereality

The artist for the room was Harish Kumar, doesn't exactly sound like a Russian name. I think he just chose a bunch of random books.

fire7side

I just had that last update a little bit ago. Kind of weird. It asked me if I wanted to keep my browser or set up the windows browser. Then it said, welcome to windows, like this was something new, but it was same old windows 10. Didn't relocate any of my files or anything. I always kind of cringe on an update. This one time after the update, it literally took 7 minutes to boot up every time. I had to do a reset to get it back to normal. I think it had something to do with my hard drive being full of Unity and Unreal free garbage. They went out the window on the reset and it's Godot only now. Haven't had any problems since. I might reload Unity to get some of their asset packages, though.

jbskaggs

@fire7side said: I just had that last update a little bit ago. Kind of weird. It asked me if I wanted to keep my browser or set up the windows browser. Then it said, welcome to windows, like this was something new, but it was same old windows 10. Didn't relocate any of my files or anything. I always kind of cringe on an update. This one time after the update, it literally took 7 minutes to boot up every time. I had to do a reset to get it back to normal. I think it had something to do with my hard drive being full of Unity and Unreal free garbage. They went out the window on the reset and it's Godot only now. Haven't had any problems since. I might reload Unity to get some of their asset packages, though.

I keep a very old copy of unity- I wont keep their new windows 10 aggro drm ver on my system. AGain just so I can access the rare utilty or asset. Plus there are better engines out there user experience wise. Especially Godot.

My mother inlaw the same update just rolled thru on her's and all her older cribbage and card games quit working. This is a bigger problem! If she aint busy she will be bothering me! LOL We just found her new games- but she had a cow when it happened.

I researched this deeper and the first time this happened to me was the previous update on 3/3/2022 as 2:13am when it did this to my desktop folder but I did not notice. Then of course it did this to my documents folder yesterday. Only reason I noticed was my godot projects were gone.

To move it back requires I edit the win registry and edit the user profile and change locations properties of the folders. I do all that and it didnt work as there is a folder in the way, but there isnt a folder in the way. The fact that they camouflage the paths to "appear" like they were in the original folders shows they people dont want this.

I am not as angry as I was yesterday but my progress switching to linux is slow.

Took me till 7am to fix my bios then I went to bed and just now got up. According to Ubuntu my experience is not rare and windows does have a history of wiping all linux partitions on drives it finds on updates. As security measure. Lets be hopeful and expect that not to happen here.